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Originally Posted by Barry Greenstein
Ryan,
As I keep saying, the relevant question is, "Is shoving more +EV than a straightforward raise?" With that in mind, you need to calculate what the expectation is for raising to 3 times the big blind and folding to a shove against hands that have you beat and winning the pot right there against hands that you have beat. Of course, that's not what will happen, but this is an important comparison we need as a first step.
Barry
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of course. and when i do shove in spots like this its either as a range booster with a strong hand like 77 to make my overall range seem stronger if i get called or if its cause i thought i might get shoved on, have a bad hand for calling resteals, and because the expectation of shoving is better than folding.
but finding the optimal play is clearly the best idea, and its usually not jamming. its sort of a "if i would otherwise fold cause im gonna get **** on, lets just take a +EV play" route