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Old 05-18-2011, 08:02 AM
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Had a pretty fun session at the Bethlehem sands last night, I was wondering for some advice on my biggest hand, I think I played it right, we can discuss that if I did anything really stupid, but I sort of want to discuss my habit of calling the river and opening my hand immediately when I think I'm good, then kicking myself for not giving the other guy a chance to show.

So the game is being relatively normal, the maniac is gone, and 2 decent players just left, leaving the game 7 handed with 2 people I have classified as "fish." The player to my left, the villain is an older man who has been playing mostly solid poker, except for at least twice where he's stacked off, mucked his hand without showing, muttered to himself, rebought immediately for 300 and went on tilt for a few minutes. He doesn't appear to be on tilt right now, and the effective stacks are around 315.

I pick up AA in the SB and raise to 14 after 3 people including the villain on the button limp. I end up with 2 other callers. The flop is Q 7 3 rainbow. I bet 20, MP folds, button calls. The turn is a 3 of the 4th suit so I bet 44 and he immediately raises to 100. I would be scared of the 3 with some other players, but not him, and I don't think he would limp call, check call pocket queens. The river is a king, I check and he shoves for his last ~180. I take a few seconds to make convince myself that he didn't flop a set and call and immediately turn over my hand. He mutters, mucks, and whips out 3 dollars.

I know he had a queen, but knowing the other card would be very useful. I showed right away because I was pretty sure I was good, and trying to make him show would lead to him steam raising the next 20 hands instead of the next 5.

I guess in summary, how do you get people who bet and don't showdown immediately to showdown a hand you are pretty sure you beat without coming off like a dick.
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Old 05-18-2011, 11:41 AM
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Wait for him to declare his hand, your perfectly entitled to as the caller although as you say if you take it to far you will look like a dick. If he isn't on tilt now his most likely hands are KQ,QJ or QT, probably sooted, but he is terribad for playing any of them like this.
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Old 05-18-2011, 11:52 AM
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If u call he has to show first easy game...
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Old 05-19-2011, 06:45 AM
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Yeah, don't show your hand...he'll have to show 1st. If he says something along the lines of "well you probably have me", reply "I called you" and stand your ground until he shows.

Now I'm not sure if it's ethical, but that's not the question at hand. Personally I see nothing wrong w/ it.
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Old 05-22-2011, 09:22 PM
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just don't say anything and don't show your cards. he must show down if called. sounds like a guy like that would probably tilt a bit more if you made him show, too.
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