2/16/11 - Travis Makar Interview - DonkDown

[rawwolf]

Did anyone else hear the Travis Makar interview on the 2/16 episode of donkdown radio..? What an interview... Wow... Must Hear..! This guy has the real story... Heads are gonna roll... He says that Freddy Deeb was not involved, and drops plenty of bombs...

[you_can't_fool_me!]

I just heard it and it is crazy! He says he has all the evidence! The biggest bomb he dropped i think was that Paul Leggett tried to pay brainwashdodo $80,000 to shut his mouth....not enough

[The 6th Wilbury]

Intrigued...

Thanks for the tip.

[Donkalicious]

If even half of what Travis had to say was true.....WOW!!

Also found it interesting that he said that no one has ever contacted him to find out his story, he mentioned this I believe in reference to being asked about the Wicked Chops posts.

Hopefully their is more to come from this, if he really does have all the info he claims (recorded phone calls, emails, bank wire receipts, etc) and it could be proven accurate it sounds like it could be very interesting to see what comes of this.

I figured eventually as more and more time went on some of the people whose names have been tied to this scandal would finally start talking, could this be the start......

[The 6th Wilbury]

Listening now, about an hour in with a good 90 minutes to go. This is fascinating stuff, although I wish the hosts would let Makar finish some sentences.

Oh, to hear the recordings he has on that machine in the wake of brainwashdodo's activity. The "Holy Grail" is a fantastic description of it.

If you go back to the June 14, 2010 episode of the 2+2 Pokercast, Barry Greenstein predicts that eventually, the information-seekers will "put some pressure on some of the names that are going to come out." Furthermore, he implies, those who are associated with Hamilton will not want to sit in silence without a chance to clear their names. This might be the first major name in the scandal to come forward and throw out a few bread crumbs.

Edit: Still going... it keeps getting better. I'm gonna have to listen to this again because I can't fully appreciate it while I'm at work. The "other" cheating incidents -- that is, that which has NOT been made public -- is blowing me away. Paul Leggett's bodyguards. Wow, just wow.

[DrummerBoy21]

Cliffs? Don't really feel like listening to a long podcast atm.

[Hughes4]

Neither do I. Times like these are when I long for the good old days of The Poker Beat. Such fond memories

[The 6th Wilbury]

Originally Posted by DrummerBoy21

Cliffs? Don't really feel like listening to a long podcast atm.

Hard to boil it down because it's a disorganized, inpromptu conversation. For the first few minutes, Makar has to prove it's actually him. 2+2 UB sleuths RolloTomasi and Mookman5 even provide questions to verify the identity.

The actual Makar content is about an hour of the full two and a half hours. I'll go back and try to provide a summary as best I can.

[Brian]

Originally Posted by The 6th Wilbury

Paul Leggett's bodyguards. Wow, just wow.

I've said it from day one even told Sebok several times when contacting him trying to get my Hand History I didn't trust Paul and I pray even though I'm not religious I never see him the guy pisses me off.

[The 6th Wilbury]

There's a fair amount of unrelated material in the interview (e.g. Makar's arrest for a road rage incident). I'll skip ahead of such things. Bottom line is that Makar received a Google Alert that his name was mentioned on the previous episode (as the guys attempted a prank call on Russ Hamilton). He decided to call in this week in response to that mention.

I'll do my best to pick out some highlights on a second run-through. Now that my office is empty, I can crank this up and listen a bit better.

35th-36th Minutes: Preliminaries
Makar, who owned a computer store, serviced computers for Hamilton, Hellmuth, Annie Duke, Scotty Nguyen. However, Makar claims to have never worked for UB. Despite his inclusion as a key name in the UB scandal, Makar has never had communication with UB (other than the usual promotional emails).

37th-39th Minutes: Preliminaries
MAKAR: "They released what they wanted to release because there were other scandals going on that they wanted to cover up. There was so much other cheating going on that they didn't want that out there."

DDR: "So you're saying that the Russ Hamilton, or the 'Russ Hamilton Cheating on UB' is only the tip of the iceberg, that there was others going on?"

MAKAR: "Oh, jeez... yeah! Russ and I were close friends. We're not anymore. I was close friends with a lot of other people at UB but it got to the point where it was a joke. The people who mostly did the scam walked away from this. Their names were never mentioned, never brought out. They didn't face any charges. Nobody has faced charges. Hand histories that were missing? I know where those are."

DDR: "Really? Do you have them?"

MAKAR: "I have so much documentation because these guys were such idiots. Even after all these thing happened, they left things wide open for people to go in and get it..."

[DDR interrupts excitedly]

DDR: "Wait, Travis... do you have the hand histories? Can you access them? Can you get them for us?"

MAKAR: "For you? No. My lawyer has them. I even have recording of all these people in their offices sitting there--"

DDR: "Oooooh, one time can we get some of that?"

MAKAR: "It's actually a federal case so it's not like can turn over that kind of stuff. I'm talking about recordings, text messages, emails, programs that were used."

DDR: "Is there any of this you can give us? We would love to show the public what this is."

MAKAR: "No, I'm sorry."

More to follow.