The Poker Beat - June 24

[BJ Nemeth]

Originally Posted by Lon VanPatten

Top WSOP cashers the last 3 years:

2009 - Daniel Negreanu - 9
2008 - Nikolay Evdakov - 10
2007 - Chad Brown and Michael Binger - 8

Wow -- I was way off the mark! My mind must have been stuck in the 2004-2006 window when it comes to cashes. (Unless I was wrong there too ...)

Thanks for the fact check, Lon.

[BJ Nemeth]

Originally Posted by 5carab

The reason Ivey is able to win bracelets so easily despite the game evolving is, at least in part, that he doesn't win no limit hold'em. He's the best, no doubt about it, but his edge in no limit isn't big enough and the fields aren't small enough to win bracelets with regularity. However, the limit games haven't reached the same level as hold'em and the fields haven't blown up enough so he can just keep beating people with horrifying efficiency.

But the large-field NLHE events are filled with dead money. The stud events have small tough fields, and Ivey is still crushing them. The regularity with which he is winning bracelets in these events is much, much higher than the other best-in-the-world players who also play these events.

Statistically, it's easier to win bracelets in the smaller field stud events. But they still have a few hundred players in them -- and those players are usually among the best of the best. Ivey is drastically outperforming the odds (and the other players) in those events. He is freakishly good.

[The 6th Wilbury]

Originally Posted by BJ Nemeth

Statistically, it's easier to win bracelets in the smaller field stud events. But they still have a few hundred players in them -- and those players are usually among the best of the best. Ivey is drastically outperforming the odds (and the other players) in those events. He is freakishly good.

The way I look at it, taking down the smaller and tougher fields is like coming up with an eight (with two standard dice) on three straight rolls. Each step along the way is a tougher go, but the smaller number of trials gives you a better overall chance to win.

Winning against the larger but soft fields is aking to flipping heads (with a coin) 12 straight times. You have a much better chance of success on each increment, but the greater number of pulls makes it a more difficult overall proposition.

Bah, I don't know how good this analogy this is, or if the math of those two scenarios is even comparable to what we're talking about. But it's how I see it.

[Wein]

really brutal that this quote wasn't mentioned in the episode...

"New Breed
Jason Lee is among the brash new players who have developed a new, more aggressive style of play, learned at the virtual tables of online poker. The strategy they employ often entails raising and re-raising with marginal cards, believing that over time, a lucky card will eventually come their way. In Internet poker, getting knocked out of a tournament means little; a player can make up his losses by going to the next game (within seconds) and letting the long-term odds work to his advantage. By bringing this style to real-life games, the new generation has caught old pros like Hellmuth and Brunson off guard.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1997112_2153144,00.html#ixzz0s7m81IGk"

Such a blatant flaw in their understanding of this "new breed" style.