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Old 10-03-2010, 12:09 PM
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Default The Poker Beat - Oct. 3

Some possible topics for this week's show:

Pokerstars blocks real money players in Washington
WSOP Europe recap
EPT London discussion?
Liv Boeree signs with PokerStars
Poker Hall of Fame discussion

Some of this and probably a lot more, on this week's Poker Beat.
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Old 10-04-2010, 11:15 AM
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The Poker Beat - WSOPE Bracelets and Kevmath Revealed - PokerRoad
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Not to spam, but if anyone is looking for one of the Kevmath interviews we discuss during the show, you can you find it here:

This Week in Poker #15 with Dwyte Pilgrim, Kevin Mathers (KevMath) & Tatjana Pasalic ThisWeekIn

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SPAM!!!!

But seriously, noone on The Beat knows Kevmath's Pokerroad SN? Or was that a bit?
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The first rule about Kevmath's PokerRoad SN is we don't talk about Kevmath's PokerRoad SN.
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The first rule about Kevmath's PokerRoad SN is we don't talk about Kevmath's PokerRoad SN.
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Finally listened to this and BJ's argument re: the Main Event thing is f***ing retarded. I mean, really? It's like saying that winning the French Open in tennis isn't a 'real Grand Slam' tourny because no one calls the winner the Wimbledon Champion... WTF? Of course no one says Annette won the ME because it's a DIFFERENT F***ING TOURNAMENT!!! She won, as everyone says, the WSOPE ME, just like Mizrachi won the Players' Championship and senor rando won a $1,500 no limit event.
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Yea I don't really get the Europe vs Vegas WSOP thing. Besides physical location of the tournaments what exactly about them would make someone think one is any different then the other?
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Finally listened to this and BJ's argument re: the Main Event thing is f***ing retarded. I mean, really? It's like saying that winning the French Open in tennis isn't a 'real Grand Slam' tourny because no one calls the winner the Wimbledon Champion... WTF? Of course no one says Annette won the ME because it's a DIFFERENT F***ING TOURNAMENT!!! She won, as everyone says, the WSOPE ME, just like Mizrachi won the Players' Championship and senor rando won a $1,500 no limit event.
So weird. I was listening to this episode at the gym, and I made this exact analogy in my head (except I thought of Australian Open instead of French Open).

Here's the way I look at the whole WSOP vs. WSOPE bracelet comparison:

1. Take all of the bracelet events at the Las Vegas WSOP and rank them 1st through 57th according to a combination of field strength, prestige and prize money. Whatever weight you give those aspects is up to you.

2. Now insert the five WSOPE bracelets into those rankings, using the same criteria.

My guess is that the WSOPE tourneys will be scattered evenly among those rankings, no matter who you are. If they are lumped near the bottom, then perhaps one could make an argument that they shouldn't have the same collective gravitas. But I would be shocked if anyone would assign them such status. As has been stated before, many of the WSOPE events seem to resemble the small-field events that run at the Rio during the spring.

No, the WSOPE Main Event bracelet doesn't stand up next to that of the WSOP Main Event. But it likely garners more weight than 80 percent of what is won in Vegas. As such, I wonder if Phil and Antonio now argue about the relative merits of their bracelets: Laak's £2,500 six-max vs. Esfandiari's $2K PLH?

I don't know, but I'd like to be a fly on the wall for that conversation.
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As mentioned above, the real argument is what the guys outlined above - the esteemed crew kinda dropped the ball on this one. Also, the WSOPE is the new kid on the block. Give it 10 years to sit in the cellar and mature a little.

American do tend to throw around the 'World' title a little haphazardly though. Perhaps a true 'World series' would be more like the Olympic Games where different countries take turns at hosting?





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