Sick Spot in the 5kNL at the wsop

Amit Makhija · #1 (**permalink**) 10-14-2008, 05:38 PM

this is a repost from a thread I made at 2p2, curious to see what some of you guys think of this hand from a 5kNL mtt at the wsop a few months back.

"about 90 left, blinds 1k/2k/300
I have about 140k preflop
Villain CSimmsSux (adam geyer) Has me covered, about 165kish

Ralph Perry opened cutoff with 55k effective for 5400 he has been very active making a bunch of preflop raises, Villain Adam Geyer is super tricky, good online player, likes to play alot of pots in position, flat calls 5400 preflop.

I am in the SB with TsTc with a very aggro image, and I had allready squeezed earlier when i had only 20bbs in this exact same spot (perry open, geyer flat i shoved, they both folded).

I raised to 17,500 with TsTc, Ralph Perry snap folded, geyer tanks for ~30 seconds, counts out a call and flicks his chips into the pot.

flop: 4d 7d 4h (45,800 pot)
I cbet 20kish (prob too small but w/e) and Geyer makes it 44k fairly quickly.

(109,800 pot)

what do you do here? Do you think he can be ****ting on me wide, given how obv of a squeeze spot this is and how this board should be missing my 3bet range. Whats your flop line? Do you think given stack sizes and table dynamics theres any argument to taking any other line."

This was about 15-20 spots from the money on day 2 of this event. Thanks in advance

~Amit

Aaron Jones · #2 (**permalink**) 10-14-2008, 06:48 PM

I'd try not to fist pump before I got it in, it seems like that would be in bad taste.

Paul Smith · #3 (**permalink**) 10-14-2008, 07:05 PM

I'm certainly not fist pumping, even to myself, but I think given the dynamics you have to get it in.

Bryan Devonshire · #4 (**permalink**) 10-14-2008, 09:24 PM

Does he like to flat big pairs pre? Induce squeezes?

Amit Makhija · #5 (**permalink**) 10-14-2008, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan Devonshire

Does he like to flat big pairs pre? Induce squeezes?

hes certainly capable of it, he reads situations pretty well.

Jonathan Little · #6 (**permalink**) 10-21-2008, 03:14 AM

Adam plays normal...If he thinks you are standard lag, you have to get in cause he might be raising fairly light. If he thinks you are tag, I think you have to just fold.

Alex Kamberis · #7 (**permalink**) 11-14-2008, 06:10 PM

Such a hard spot, since it's hard to imagine him raise/calling with hands like 88/99 here. Also, most good players wouldn't try to bluff such a dry flop, since it seems so obvious.

Though, from what I've seen from him online, he's definitely capable of calling preflop with a fairly wide range - I see him making questionable implied odds calls all the time in situations like this. I also think he's the type who would make a small bluff here, just hoping you don't have the balls to go with it if you don't have a big pair.

How often had you been squeezing preflop? If you were doing it fairly regularly, I think that makes it a lot easier to stack off here.

I like to think I could find a fold here, but I couldn't. You obviously weren't planning on folding preflop and at this point, you only lose to the same hands you were behind against before the flop anyways. This may be a bad justification, but I'd stack off here.

Niman Kenkre · #8 (**permalink**) 11-14-2008, 08:58 PM

I don't know the opponent, but I think you might have made a mistake by betting so small on the flop. Your bet looks weak and a good tricky player might act on a read of weakness. Given that you put yourself in this position, I would say that you have to go with your hand.

I would prefer if you had bet about 32K on the flop, after which you could more comfortably fold if he raised you.