3 handed FTP Sunday Mulligan vs. charder

[Bryan Devonshire]

Alright, so. 3 handed in the full tilt sunday mulligan, like 46k for 1st, 30 and 21. I've been CL for a looooong time, Christian and I have been playing together for a loong time, and I really don't think we've played a single pot together post-flop except for one in recent history where I picked off a bluff light and there was only a turn bet. I have very obviously been staying out of his way. He had 3 bet me a zillion times and I had folded every single one of them. The last time he had flatted me was recently also and he had AQo, however he was in position, we were both deep, and there were stacks that would squeeze light. He had also slowed down on his 3-betting of me figuring that I was due to shove eventually I believe.

I feel like he's repping a really really narrow range here, and it was really hard for me to find something in that range that doesn't 3 bet pre-flop.

Comments on all streets are appreciated.

Full Tilt Poker The Sunday Mulligan No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t8000/t16000 Blinds + t2000 - 3 players
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Hero (BTN): t1069552
SB: t1219628
BB: t764820

Pre Flop: (t30000) Hero is BTN with 8 K
Hero raises to t32000, SB calls t24000, BB calls t16000

Flop: (t102000) A A 8 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets t44444, SB raises to t123250, BB folds, Hero calls t78806

Turn: (t348500) 7 (2 players)
SB requests TIME, SB bets t200250, Hero calls t200250

River: (t749000) 6 (2 players)
SB requests TIME, SB bets t412250, Hero calls t412250

[Mike Watson]

Wow, really don't like it. There are plenty of aces in his range preflop and I really don't see him bluffing here all that often. Definitely don't call the river I just can't imagine him barreling off his stack here when a huge % of your range is obviously an A and some other stuff that might not even fold. On the flop sure he could be c/r light since your range there is super wide, and on the turn he might be following through trying to fold out all the stuff worse than an ace that you peel the flop with, though I feel like he'd probably shut down a lot of bluffs right there. When he fires again on the river though I can't see how you could be good. I think I probably fold turn most of the time but if I really think he's fos I can see peeling again, but the river call just can't be good.

[Adam Levy]

the fact that he time banked on BOTH streets makes me want to muck muck muck. I almost want to muck on the flop because he basically has to check the turn AND river for you to hope your hand is good. Also, is he really c/r bluffing on such a dry board in a 3 way pot? Highly doubtful. From my experiences Charder is way more agg preflop than postflop. There are so many reasons to muck here. If by chance you won the hand here, well then bravo but I would not have put myself in this spot in the first place. I honestly think folding the flop is the best play.

Also, seeing as posting hands with the Charder is the new craze, I can't wait to play with him so I can post a hand.

[Scott Seiver]

Only bet this flop if its to induce this for you to snap call your stack off or because you have the easiest fold ever on the flop. Do not bet this flop if we don't feel the value from betting doesntt become marginalized by the amount we lose when this exact line happens and it happens with enough frequency that we can't just immediately fold on the flop.

[Phil D'Auteuil]

Originally Posted by Scott Seiver

Only bet this flop if its to induce this for you to snap call your stack off or because you have the easiest fold ever on the flop. Do not bet this flop if we don't feel the value from betting doesntt become marginalized by the amount we lose when this exact line happens and it happens with enough frequency that we can't just immediately fold on the flop.

-if it were the easiest fold to a c/r on the flop, that wouldn't imply its a good bet
-you can bet to induce without planning on stacking off (he shuts down, which is very very likely after flop + turn barrel here since you have an ace so often)
-you can still bet this flop for value (worse 8s, K-high) and protection against six outs with the knowledge that it's marginalized by getting bluffed off the best hand some % of the time.

[Isaac Baron]

I could see the flop and turn being decent depending on dynamic, but I'm still not a big fan of either. The river, however is horrible imo, like Mike said I can not imagine Charder barrelling off this river when a big part of your range is an ace or a full house.

[Daniel Negreanu]

In order of preference:

1) Call flop fold turn (I'd do this if I had the Ace also so it should be believable)
2) Fold Flop
3) Min raise turn (only if you actually planned on calling the river and think he is bluffing)

The line you took looks almost identical to 3) expect mine is better. Seriously, it is a MUCH better play to min-raise the turn then it is to call the turn and the river. Could he ever seriously re-raise bluff you on the turn with that board? I just don't think it's even remotely possible, so the min-raise allows to essentially "pay him off" at a discount price if you were really that skeptical about his hand.