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Old 05-31-2009, 07:08 PM
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Default 50-100 Stud, concealed 2 pair on 5th

This happened in a 50-100 HORSE game first Friday of WSOP, we were 7 +/- 1 handed.

I bring it in with a 4 in the 5 seat, TT from 2+2 limps Kc, Shaun (a Vegas reg) limps a 9.

4th street ($115)
TT (xx)KJ
Shaun (xx)93
Devo (67)47

check, check, I bet, TT raises, Shaun calls, I call.

5th street ($415)
TT (xx)KJ2
Shaun (xx)933
Devo (67)476

TT bets, Shaun raises

1) wtf is going here?
2) now what?
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Old 06-04-2009, 06:01 AM
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So, I made a mistake on Shaun's board. He made a pair on 6th - TT def still had the lead on 5th and def bet Shaun raised, pretty sure the 3d on 4th street is supposed to be a 2d.
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:32 PM
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I'm not really a stud player but this seems like kind of a trivial fold to me? I read the update that Shaun doesn't have a pair here, assuming he has the 2d and not the 3d.

On 4th you're pretty much repping the hand you have, some sort of middle pair or at best maybe a 4567 type hand. TT could be isolating you on the flop with Jacks or even with KJT9 or some sort of big cards + straight/flush possibilities knowing his board could end up looking quite scary for you and he could easily make the best hand if you do have one par. When Shaun cold calls after just limping on 3rd the most logical hand to put him on is a 4 flush I guess, but I'm not enough of a stud player in these games to know if a 4 flush would cold call, 3 bet, or fold there.

On 5th When TT leads he might have 5 big cards + 4 to a flush or still have something like Jacks. Shaun's raise could be 9s up or still some sort of flush draw that has has a straight draw as well on 5th. Maybe even flush + pair. Either way, even if you are ahead with two pair at the moment, I just can't really see you being very far ahead of their ranges (maybe even a statistical dog) and unless you hit one of the 4 full house outs it could be really easy for you to get outplayed on 6th or 7th if you ever call on 5th. If I was to continue on 5th I might 3 bet it to rep the straight as sort of a semi-bluff with 4 outs trying to squeeze out TT as his hand is probably more vulnerable and thus more likely to fold and maybe even getting Shaun to fold a better hand like 9s up on 6th or 7th but the pot will be big enough at that point I really can't see him not calling on 7th if he has any showdown value whatsoever.

I'm not a great stud player at all (probably not even a good or okay one) but this seems like a somewhat standard fold to me.
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