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Old 01-12-2009, 06:29 PM
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I would like to know your opinion about this hand. Johnny Chan raises UTG, 2 middle players and the SB called and I have 9 2 on the BB and decided to call as well. So five players see this flop:

T 9 2

SB bet, I raise JC calls and the other players fold.

Turn A SB check, I bet JC raises, SB folds. What is your action here?
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Old 01-13-2009, 04:36 PM
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fold preflop
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Old 01-13-2009, 09:15 PM
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guess its limit holdem, so id call turn and check/call river, might consider folding if 4-card flush shows up on river (but prolly still call, lol, i mean its limit)

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Old 01-14-2009, 02:24 AM
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I don't think I'm ever folding here as his range is a high spade with an ace/ace of spades. I have never played JC in LHE so TBH I'm not sure what he is often opening UTG here, but I can safely assume those hands I described before are in his range a big percentage of the time to call the turn and C/C a non spade river.
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Old 01-15-2009, 11:54 AM
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I assume Chan is playing VERY fast with Ax on that turn so I think we 3-bet then lead any non A/ non spade river. If he 4-bets we probably call down on similar cards.

Surely we are letting Chan destroy us totally if we don't put up more of a fight with 2 pair here right?
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Old 01-15-2009, 03:00 PM
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you could 3 bet or just call him down, limit is a very simple game, not sure why yall making it hard, I would be more scared if we are against Terence Chan, Johhny is so predictable.
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Old 01-23-2009, 09:14 PM
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You should check call but add some money to the pot. It's limit so he probably will call you if you raise and he will see the 92.... At least it was suited
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:58 PM
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reraise him, i would think he has something viable along with the flush draw. you have a little fold equity, just a little, and most likely the best hand. if another s comes that doesnt fill you u then try to check it down. i think the key to this hand is to back him off if u can on 4th. if you cant and the four flush comes then u can re assess the situation and maybe call it down. i wouldnt fold this hand and give u your equity.

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Old 04-26-2009, 03:25 AM
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He may have us beat but probably has an ace and a spade. There's no point 3-betting however as he would have around 17 outs to beat us (including the three tens) so forcing him to call an extra bet here doesn't cost him EV. Calling and betting blanks on the river or otherwise check-calling seems reasonable. Death Donkey says to check-raise blanks on the river but that's because he is an aggro spew-donk from the interwebz. In live poker JC will check behind with one pair hands so you'll be check-raising into better hands when he bets.
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Old 04-26-2009, 04:04 PM
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No one is even considering that he has you crushed. Let's see - a set of 10's aces, 9's or dueces - A10 A9 or a hand like KQ of spades. Everyone says "oh it's limit, blah, blah" this also means he is raising a variety of hands when opening the pot unlike NLHE where you can rule some hands out. Also, to the guy who said he would rather play Johnny Chan than Terrance Chan - Wow! It is Johnny ****ing Chan, and you are calling his raises with 9 2- you deserve to get crushed which is where I would say you are at. Your best case scenario is that he has A of spades only and still you aren't a huge favorite. Every other plausible scenario has him crushing you, in half of those scenarios you are drawing dead.

P.S. I am highly confident he held AA with ace of spades or A 10 with ace of spades - possibly a set of tens, when you
post his actual holdings (if you post them) I shall do a victory dance and win a small wager with my girlfriend.

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