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Old 12-01-2009, 09:16 AM
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It kind of depends on what the villain knows about charder, Im assuming that he probably knows who he is and can therefore attempt to make more plays at him. The line seems kind of strange though
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Old 12-01-2009, 09:17 AM
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Just read Bliiz's post. Unless this is a level the GG WP GL ect
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take a second and replay the hand in your head.

it went;

preflop: he raised 3x BB in SB. maybe he has something (any PP) and maybe he has nothing (just high cards and suited aces maybe a suited king if he's as crazy as you think).

but as the hand plays out.....

flop: check, you bet 1100 more than half pot. he .....calls?!

always look at the betting/calling patterns for reasons below.

it's starting to get weird too, because of the reverse implied odds you're creating as you build the pot. i mean, for all you know he could have a made set or two pair and be on some what of a freeroll and has decide to let you dig your own ditch.

also, you only have top pair second best kicker.

check call is tooooo weak and smells of a trap on a later street. if he thinks you are strong or bluffing and will bet due to his (weak) check he may check/call as away to feel out how strong (confident) you really are and play out the hand from there based on his read of your bet.

as vague as it looked your little more than half pot bet basically told him you have top pair or an over pair and wanted to play for a big pot, if you thought your hand was good*.

(* mind you, opponents from any country are still capable of thinking on high levels, and capable of setting traps based on their read of how the table has perceived their image to be, as could be the case here. he could have raised for value with pocket 3's to steal the blinds, hit bottom set and now has decided to show weakness to slow play a hidden monster to your top pair or over pair, letting you bait your own trap by building the pot up even more.)

turn: he checks, you bet a little over half pot again. he.....calls again?!?!

ALARMS SHOULD BE GOING OFF IN YOUR HEAD!!

so in summary up to this point,

1. you told him two times with your betting that you have a semi-good hand,
and both times he called as if not worried about what you were representing (top pair or over pair).

2. your controlling the pot size with position is a little lacking with only top pair.

3. because of the betting and the size of the pot you risk being bluffed on the river or stacked with your mediocre holding (would you play K-J or K-Q this way on jack or queen high board?)


river: after all this to contemplate......the board pairs and is some what of a perfect scare card and, he shoves....

now most of your stack is in the middle, the only way to get it out is put the rest in (way behind) and you're right were he wants you.....shipping it!

other than that: I FOLD 80% AND CALL AND PRAY 20% IF EVER IN A SPOT LIKE THIS

the flop bet should have been smaller after that, you should have kept the pot in control and been happy to showdown.

dont play top pair this way, (too spewy)
even against a guy with "stockholm syndrome"

but i'm sure you already know this
That was a pretty awesome post Hustle. I am just surprised so many of you say call. The descritption of this villain suggests that he's not going to check call, check call, "spaz" shove. But people probably do that kind of stuff more against Menlo, so he has to weight that higher in their range. Spaz shove is really the only thing the Hero can beat here.
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Old 04-07-2011, 05:48 PM
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^ The effort spammers go to
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^ The effort spammers go to
Yeah, I've seen a few of these -- a spam bot simply copying a post from earlier in the thread to make it appear legit. There was a different one that copied a paragraph from Negreanu's blog (about Ivey's bracelet in a 2-7 event) and elicited some discussion even though it was nothing more than a bot to push ink cartridges or something like that.

I'm waiting for the day a spambot copies one of my verbose replies, or a Hughes/99Problems comedy post. It will be very obvious what happened.
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This thread has got slightly derailed i think
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Old 04-10-2011, 09:15 PM
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wow so why did the spammers pick an interesting hand to spam?

for everyone: do you call this river?
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Old 04-10-2011, 10:35 PM
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does drugs and porn mean a call? answer me spambots! :P im kinda drunk if anyone can tell ahahahaha if a spam bot gives and answer and reasons on this river ill piss away 5 bucks on their sh*tty products
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Old 04-12-2011, 12:06 PM
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Guys, enuff is enuff with me, too.

Nice discussion, thanks for the contributions. This thread is clean.
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