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Old 10-24-2011, 02:46 PM
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Trust me i wanted to see a heads up couple more than anyone here.
But Doc Sands push wasnt "a type" of semi bluff ?
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Old 10-24-2011, 02:54 PM
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I don't think preflop semi-bluffs exist, as a concept.
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Old 10-24-2011, 03:00 PM
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Im asking if he wanted a call in that spot? Just thought he was trying to get all the blinds and anti money,which was alot to add to his stack at the time.)
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Old 10-24-2011, 03:04 PM
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Clearly he didn't want a call...
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I don't think preflop semi-bluffs exist, as a concept.
Interesting... I've always considered making preflop raises (or three-bets, etc.) with more speculative holdings as semi-bluffs. I don't think I've ever used that term for preflop plays, but I think of them in the same way: you're raising with hands that are almost certainly behind, you'd prefer a fold, but you expect to have a fair amount of equity on the occasions you're called.
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yeah, I dont mind either shove, especially considering they probably had better reads than I. perhaps these guys were opening and folding to shoves quitea bit, or perhaps they knew they would fold pretty big hands (as evidenced by the AJ tank).
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:09 PM
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yeah, I dont mind either shove, especially considering they probably had better reads than I. perhaps these guys were opening and folding to shoves quitea bit, or perhaps they knew they would fold pretty big hands (as evidenced by the AJ tank).
This also shows two of the major differences between the semi-live broadcast and the edited Tuesday night show on ESPN.

1. When watching live, we got a better idea as to how everyone was playing. We noticed when someone opened frequently. Or we might see a player who was a bit more TAG-ish, raising but willing to lay down against a shove. In either case, it puts any three-bet shove into far better context than the highlight reel can possibly demonstrate.

2. On Sands' shove, Hewitt tanked for a few minutes, according to the PokerNews reports. On the live show, we would have seen him hem and haw before making the decision. On the edited show, it takes just a few seconds for him to call.

By the way, for those who didn't see the broadcast, Giannetti opened with KJ in Moutinho's bustout hand.
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