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Old 11-28-2008, 01:40 PM
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ok quick question, first off ive never meet her, more tan likely never will know clonie, ive only saw her on TV, but why dose so many people have a beef with her?
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Old 11-28-2008, 05:24 PM
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That the Aces and Kings were missing>>>
IT was an awesome idea
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Old 11-29-2008, 05:51 PM
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yes....she was great but now i want to know what other think about this. She made everything so believable. I wonder if she wanted to do that for fun or just for poker reasons. Hopefully she comments on this.
I don't normally comment on my play, because players are getting better and I don't want to help them. Anything that you say can be used against you at the table.

Through the years some bloggers referred to me as Clownie Gowen. Instead of looking at this like an insult, I look at it in a different way. I see that being underestimated is a good thing, not a bad one. Poker is a game of incomplete information. You, as the player, need to make a educated guess from the data you have. If my opponents clearly have wrong information, then they will make mistakes against me.

And it's my job to find information on them. I decided that watching old footage of them would not help me. The reason is because I know they are all great players, so they are capable of changing their game. I did not want to fog my mind with plays they had made against other players, who were not me. I needed to break down how they viewed me as a player.

All the players on "Mission Impossible" are great players -- you can not deny that. But even great players have weakness.

Mike Matusow - #1 weakness is tilting - okay, this is obvious. I didn't need to do anything to make this happen. Mike is his own worst enemy. It is just a matter of time -- but as we all have also seen, when Mike is focused he is unstoppable.

David Williams- I have played with David since my days in Dallas. He tends to be on the hyper-aggressive side. In a cash game, I love this, but in the PAD format it is dangerous. I felt it was best to avoid him for the most part, let the other players pick him off. There was so much testosterone in that room, I didn't need to do anything. You may have seen in the "Poker Prowess" episode of PAD, David and I played many pots together. This one hand goes down. I have A9 and he has A7, neither of us flop anything. David bets 3/4 of the pot and I re-raise. I felt he was weak. David pushes all-in. I wanted to call and be the hero. But I felt like laying down the A9 was the right play, because I knew I could come back. If I called and was wrong I was out, or if he gets lucky and hits his dangler...out too. If we had been on the river I might have been more inclined to call, but there were 2 more cards to come. ----My skirt flew up in the air----- His move was perfect, his read was correct, and I could not call.

Gavin Smith - I feel he calls too much in this type of format. Enough said about that.

Phil Hellmuth - Weakness: his ego. There are 2 players that in a tournament structure, I feel are the best at reading opponents, they are Phil Hellmuth and Daniel Negreanu. I have other favorites in cash games, but I am going to keep those to myself. So I felt I had to convince Phil that his reads against me were correct. I didn't realize that the other players would also trust his read on me and play me accordingly. This was just blind luck.

Phil Laak - Now how in the world do you get inside the mind of a genius? I had to think like Phil L. If you have read some of his articles, you know only he can understand some of the stuff that comes out of his mind. I felt his weakness is over-thinking some situations. In a hand between the two of us, where I bet the flop, Phil min-raises me. I remember thinking Phil thinks that a min-raise will scare me. If he believes it will scare me, then if I min-raise him back....it should really make him think. Those cards went in the muck so fast, my hair caught wind. In Phil's defense, I caught a lot of flops, made the right moves at the right time, and I didn't let him get in my head. I couldn't let him get in my head. He would have picked up on anything I did. He is too smart. So I had to play him in a defensive style by taking away his strength, and BY KEEPING MY MOUTH SHUT!

Clonie Gowen- Weakness: I have many, a lot more than some of the players I played against. But I am not going to share them with you. I feel my biggest strengths in this game are: I don't have an ego, I listen when a player I respect gives me advice, and I am always looking for my mistakes more than anyone else's. And as I find them, I can see others mistakes a bit more clearly.
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I want to thank Pokerroad, for giving me the courage to post. (I would like to say something here but I can't express it clearly.) Thanks Barry!
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Old 11-29-2008, 11:43 PM
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Through the years some bloggers referred to me as Clownie Gowen. Instead of looking at this like an insult, I look at it in a different way. I see that being underestimated is a good thing, not a bad one. Poker is a game of incomplete information. You, as the player, need to make a educated guess from the data you have. If my opponents clearly have wrong information, then they will make mistakes against me.
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Thanks for the insight Clonie, and glad to see you take Barry's invite. Regardless of how everyone feels about what may or may not be going on I think many here will enjoy your input in to the actual poker content


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Old 12-03-2008, 02:01 AM
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just thought I'd mention gavin being on and ordering his diet coke and bacardi of course.... David Williams said " imagine 6 allen kesslers on this show and taking out all of the Aces and Kings and not telling him" haha
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Old 12-04-2008, 06:47 PM
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Old 01-18-2009, 05:31 AM
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they should have
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